It is obviously true in the case of MN, but the only reason to make the comment is to insist again that we should not be upset about Florida in 2000.
But, if we want to only talk about the closeness of the vote, yes, both MN 2008 & FL 2000 were very close; and yes, in both cases the outcome was within the margin of error.
A awful lot went on in Florida to push the vote toward Bush besides a recount in accordance with the laws of the State of Florida, but surely no one wants to go over that again. Particularly after the consequences of the margin of error decision were so dire.
It is obviously true in the case of MN, but the only reason to make the comment is to insist again that we should not be upset about Florida in 2000.
It's not why I brought it up, and I didn't hear Will's comments as such either--he's as angry with Bush as anyone. It was brought up that it looks like the votes that will push Franken over the top were found in a car trunk after the original count. That sounds horrendously shady. Will was arguing that it is too much in the margin for error to get worked up about.
Agreed about both being with the margin of what is knowable -- when you are talking about 225 (or 537) votes out of millions, it's truly a toss-up.
Was it Reagan who said that the definition of a bureaucrat is someone who cares more about the process than the outcome? In that vein I am happy about how the MN (and AK, and WA-08) processes played out, but remain very unhappy with how FL-2000 played out, irrespective of their outcomes.
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It is obviously true in the case of MN, but the only reason to make the comment is to insist again that we should not be upset about Florida in 2000.
But, if we want to only talk about the closeness of the vote, yes, both MN 2008 & FL 2000 were very close; and yes, in both cases the outcome was within the margin of error.
A awful lot went on in Florida to push the vote toward Bush besides a recount in accordance with the laws of the State of Florida, but surely no one wants to go over that again. Particularly after the consequences of the margin of error decision were so dire.
It is obviously true in the case of MN, but the only reason to make the comment is to insist again that we should not be upset about Florida in 2000.
It's not why I brought it up, and I didn't hear Will's comments as such either--he's as angry with Bush as anyone. It was brought up that it looks like the votes that will push Franken over the top were found in a car trunk after the original count. That sounds horrendously shady. Will was arguing that it is too much in the margin for error to get worked up about.
Fair enough.
It is fun to have so many real life examples of ties.
Agreed about both being with the margin of what is knowable -- when you are talking about 225 (or 537) votes out of millions, it's truly a toss-up.
Was it Reagan who said that the definition of a bureaucrat is someone who cares more about the process than the outcome? In that vein I am happy about how the MN (and AK, and WA-08) processes played out, but remain very unhappy with how FL-2000 played out, irrespective of their outcomes.
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